paigewoodcock
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Post by paigewoodcock on Sept 9, 2013 19:44:31 GMT
Is anyone watching the panorama documentary about mental health and the police and things :/?
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Post by lucyrob on Sept 9, 2013 19:51:45 GMT
I'm going to watch it online later, are you watching?
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paigewoodcock
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Panorama
Sept 10, 2013 9:43:53 GMT
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Post by paigewoodcock on Sept 10, 2013 9:43:53 GMT
I did watch it, it honestly discusted me... I understand that the police are not trained in helping people with mental health but the way they treated the people in the program was horrific....it makes question the training our police force is given, should they get training on helping people with mental health? because there was a lot of statistics in the program about how many people are taken into police custody that do have mental health and don't get the proper help they need is very upseting and suprising.
sorry about my rant! xxx
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martinlom
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Post by martinlom on Sept 10, 2013 18:43:46 GMT
I didn't watch it. I've recorded it but I'm not sure if I'll be able to watch it to be honest, I'm worried I'll find it too triggering.
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Post by lucyrob on Sept 10, 2013 19:50:28 GMT
Gutted it isn't on iPlayer...thought maybe that's best! At least it brings to light key issues that need addressing.
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paigewoodcock
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Post by paigewoodcock on Sept 10, 2013 21:44:08 GMT
it really does bring to mind things that need sorting asap, it is a good watch but a hatd watch too if you understand me.
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Post by JC on Sept 11, 2013 14:32:44 GMT
I had no interest in watching this episode of Panorama, I could see it was going to be a very negative programme and chose to ignore it, although I doubt it would have particularly affected my illness (I'll never use the word Trigger or Triggering, they're just not for me).
Having said that, this programme isn't the first time I've heard of this issue.
Police Officers and other Emergency Services discussed the issue of dealing with people with mental illness on 999: What's Your Emergency?
At least one of the Police Officers said they joined the Police to fight crime, but more and more, his role has been more akin to a Social Worker and he didn't sign up for that.
Ambulance Crews were saying similar things about having to take people with mental illness to hospital, even though nothing can really be done for them there either.
Both the Police and Ambulance Crews criticised the so-called Mental Health Service, who can't/won't cope.
Personally and from my experience, I despise the whole of the NHS (especially the so-called Mental Health Service), but even leaving that out of it, I can really see the Police Officer's point. He did sign up to fight crime and to prevent crime, it isn't really his job to sit with or look after people with mental health problems.
At the end of the day, I don't believe Police Officers and Ambulance Crews should be criticised for not wanting to look after people with Mental Health problems.
It's not their job.
Instead, the righteous scorn should be poured on the useless (in my experience) Mental Health Service, who have shown me nothing but utter disinterest and complete lack of compassion since the day I first met them 11 years ago.
Deliberate mistreatment of people with Mental Illness is not ok, that's simply inhumane abuse, but if it's just a case of ignorance on how to look after them properly, I think that's understandable since that was never meant to be part of their remit.
It's true they could be trained in how to care for people with mental illness, but again, that would just shift their role more towards Social Worker than Police Officer, just because the NHS (No Help Service) Mental Health Service is completely and utterly incompetent with an equal amount of compassion to the furthest extreme.
I know others won't feel the same as me, likely won't agree with me, but that's my opinion.
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Post by astoldbyfrankie on Sept 23, 2013 14:08:12 GMT
I read an excellent blog (google mentalhealthcop) and he's trying to sort out the sorry state of mental health/policing in this country. I can't tell you how many people I've known who have had similar experiences to those shown in the program. I do have to say though, the one time the police picked me up they were absolutely wonderful (even though there were loads of them, bit overkill!) and made me a cup of tea in the train station, talked to me for a long long time and got me an ambulance with a police escort to send me back to the hospital. So it's not all horror stories.
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