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Post by Toni-Louise on Feb 11, 2014 22:24:43 GMT
There was a fantastic discussion on twitter yesterday about celebrities and mental health and I thought it would be good to get a conversation started on here (please keep it friendly though, don't want any major disagreements) this is one individuals opinion, what do you think? purplepersuasion.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/everybody-hurts-privilege-in-mental-health/Also who do you belive is a fantastic (celebrity) advocate for mental health?if any?
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Post by Nick with OCD on Feb 12, 2014 7:33:14 GMT
Stephen Fry and Ruby Wax. They have both been open and honest about their mental health problems and are patrons of mental health charities. Stephen Fry for Mind and Ruby Wax for Black Dog Tribe.
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Post by Helen on Feb 12, 2014 10:27:21 GMT
While I think that blogger has some good points I do think she is unnecessarily harsh on celebrities with mental health issues. They may have the privilege of money but they also have the added pressure of being a public figure. Their illnesses are more often played out publicly. Having the paparazzi on your tail must be awful when you are ill.
I am really glad Stephen Fry has been so honest with his experiences, especially [Trigger Warning] with his attempted suicide last year. It's difficult to know that someone who has been treated for so long still has so much trouble with his health but also is a reminder for me that I have to be ready for the long haul.
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Post by BethH on Feb 13, 2014 16:55:19 GMT
I agree with Helen - I can't imagine that being followed around by cameras would be good for anyone's mental health! There's also a lot more pressure on celebrities, particularly women, to conform to certain expectations from the public, especially with regard to things like weight, which I'm sure would add a great deal more stress and unhappiness to their lives.
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Post by Toni-Louise on Feb 14, 2014 13:31:36 GMT
Fantastic responses,while I agree having money allows for better treatment options and more support from child care services etc it must be very difficult being watched and judged by the media and must be stressful and may make recovery difficult.
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Post by Michaela on Feb 16, 2014 22:31:51 GMT
I'm never quite sure where I stand on this issue. I think the writer makes a lot of good points. The media has a tendency to glamourise mental illnesses - bipolar is one that has received particular attention and there has been a tendency to focus on the so-called positive aspects, like increased creativity and productivity that celebs say they get from it. But the reality for a lot of sufferers is very different. They may not have flexibility in work, the support systems or the money to work around their illness and so on. Then there is the difference between the "mainstream" illnesses, such as bipolar, which has received lots of media attention and depression, which is much closer to "normal" experience and diagnoses such as schizophrenia or BPD which are still highly stigmatised. You don't see celebrities coming out with these diagnoses do you? And as the writer said, it is one thing for these privileged people who are able to book into clinics like the priory and something else for someone who in sectioned or refused treatment as there isn't enough bedspace - most experiences of psychiatric treatment are much less positive.
That said, I don't think it is particularly beneficial to focus on "how bad" each of our problems are - we already see enough stigma, without stigmatising each other too. That way it turns into a battle of whose problems are worst, and that helps no one. All of our problems are real and there will always be someone better off and someone worse off than you. When I was really ill, feeling that my problems weren't justified only made things ten times worse - we need to stop judging things that way and just accept that we all deserve help.
Yes there are still many issues with media portrayal of mental illness - but celebs like Ruby Wax and Stephen Fry have brought it out in the open and at least helped to begin the discussion. Sure there is still a long way to go, but judging each other won't help advance the cause.
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Post by Toni-Louise on Feb 16, 2014 22:50:27 GMT
It is definitely difficult to reach a conclusion on this matter,you make some fantastic points.celebs have definitely helped to get people talking and you are right it isn't helpful to judge your problems against the problems of others
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Post by Helen on Feb 18, 2014 8:58:15 GMT
I think that's true. I recently looked into an online support group for Bipolar sufferers. I found it a really horrible place though as it was dominated by people who had self-diagnosed and who said how much they loved their illness. I feel so out of control whether I'm low or high and recently I thought my medication was working better but then I came crashing down again. I'm not suggesting that people can't be positive or make the best of things but I find it difficult that people can think it's such a positive thing. The likelihood is that if they have Bipolar (and especially if they are unmedicated) that the episodes will become more severe over their life. Research has shown the more episodes you have, the more you will have.
I really wish Schizophrenia would become much less stigmatised - and personality disorders. I do also think that depression is still seen as not a real illness when it clearly is.
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Post by Michaela on Feb 18, 2014 15:57:45 GMT
Agree with everything you said Helen. Like you said too, illnesses like depression and anxiety are stigmatised in a different way - people do seem to think that they understand it, but they don't really get the severity xx
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Post by Nick with OCD on Feb 18, 2014 16:00:41 GMT
OCD is also stigmatised heavily too. Pees me right off when any mental illness is stigmatised or used as a joke
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Post by Helen on Feb 18, 2014 21:41:39 GMT
It really annoys me when people like to be tidy and say that they are 'a little OCD'. On Twitter the hashtag #Bipolar comes up with people moaning about things like inconsistent weather. It undoes the good work charities are trying to do.
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